SUBJECT>Re: Any argument for Burn ?? POSTER>Koala EMAIL>turtel@juno.com DATE>Tuesday, 28 October 1997, at 2:52 p.m. EMAILNOTICES>no IP_ADDRESS> REMOTE_HOST: tcs-gateway2.treas.gov; REMOTE_ADDR: 204.151.246.2 PASSWORD>aa3JDg0aK0i2E PREVIOUS>3673 NEXT> 3678 IMAGE> LINKNAME> LINKURL>


> They first welcomed the Amphibians just like our Probes. But they don't want to make the same mistake again. Other probes like Gen
> and the EU-probes have landed and they had been hostile. What's about the C-probes ?? So it's easy to understand that the Ipsos want
> to destroy our Probes.

I agree with your interpretation. The Ipsolstai are understandably hesitant to trust again. So would we if it were one of our worlds taken. In fact, THERE is the argument for which we are searching:

"Amphibians stole one of your planets. Now you come to take one of ours. How are you any different from the Amphibians? Why should we trust you? Why should we wish to permit you to live here with us?

"We do so because we believe in peace. We do so because we welcome our new friends and wish to share the joys of discovery and expanded understanding that comes from such peaceful coexistence.

"We offer no threat to you. In fact, we have chosen to ally ourselves with you against others sent from our own home planet. We have risked ourselves for your protection. We have respected your wishes that we not make use of some of your technology despite the fact that it is here without your ever having asked if we objected.

"We have done everything we can to welcome you and demonstrate our good will. We have been honest with you in clearly identifying sources of danger from our home planet and have risked our own existence in an attempt to halt the threats against you.

"You cannot find better friends than us anywhere in the known Universe."

> More Amphibians came from inside new home ??
> Does that mean that they have a very high quote of reproduction ??

I do not think so. It is far more likely the Amphibians built a Groove Anchor and simply transported all the troops they needed. Since the Anchor was located within a building erected for the Amphibians' use, it naturally appeared to the Ipsolstai that Amphibians were literally appearing out of thin air, and at an alarming rate.

> >We are here to explore. We are here because of conquest.
>
> That's the only argument,I see.
> The Ipsos and our Probes share the same destiny.

Please explain the idea of the probes living on Mars because of a conquest. Do you mean to say they are our avitars for the conquest of Mars? Do you mean the hostile-like take-over by B-B? I don't see such a direct parallel.

> Both are explorers, both are orphans, because of a conquest.
> For what kind of a reason should they kill each other ??

I agree both are explorers. The orphans analogy is a little harder to support but not worth spending any time debating until you get to the cause being conquest. Again, what conquest have the Probes undergone? I find that too much of a stretch to be able to support in arguments with the Ipsolstai.

> A pretty week point, isn't it ??

I would not be so cold as to characterize it that way. I think my suggestions near the top of this "magnum opus" (as it is soon becoming) may be the start of what we seek.

See what you can do with it. Feel free to cut and paste, add, delete, or whatever and let's see what we can devise that will serve our Probes.

Koala, Captain, Team Andrew